World Cup Play-Offs (Europe) Draw

[noel 78]

there is no way fifa are change the world cup set up for us to go through,we are not the first team ever to be hard done by i wish theyed forget it ,ask fifa for champions league final in next ciuple of years as compo,that will generate similar finance for the economy,as for the WC get over it we officially are out

[Nosferatu]

The original point was aimed at the FAI. They are the ones who are in the middle of bulding a new stadium. And the difference in selling a team who are in the World Cup as opposed to one who are not is huge in financial terms. The sponsorship and the ticket sales are things that directly affect them. And they lose out because of this. More so because of the stadium build.

- do you go into town very often, every weekend pubs and clubs are absolutely wedged, people are out spending money already.

I don't go in very often. But I was in last weekend. And I did notice that the pub I was in, was packed with a lot of people who were out for the rugby. As opposed to about 8 weeks ago when I was in the same place and there was less people there. Even though Ireland were playing Italy.

But where it was really apparent was when I was home, outside Dublin and out when the first France match was on. There was a lot more people were out than usual. I was talking to a guy who was out with his wife. They went for dinner beforehand and then out for drinks after.

This is where it takes effect because he was spending money both in a restuarant and a pub. And if you look at the figures quoted, £100m is hardly going to pull any country out of recession. I would have thought anyone in a bank would know that.

What it does do is generate a bit more business for everyone and could be the difference between businesses surviving a little bit longer or folding which is the sad case now with a lot of them.

[Falkman]

here here!

[Nerik]

So let us have a 168 team World Cup in order to end the world recession.

[Falkman]

If that would end world recession mate, then let's do it!!!  

Fifa would probably seed each team in relation to the debt they have.


This debate Nerik is purely to highlight what knock on effort Millionaire Henry has created by cheating.

To a football fan it's 'a blow'. To a small business who could possibly have remained in business for an extended period of time. Well, that is 'real'

[shass]

So let us have a 168 team World Cup in order to end the world recession.

i thought you were hanging the boots up soon.
you and tony drago back in action?

[Robser]

The original point was aimed at the FAI. They are the ones who are in the middle of bulding a new stadium. And the difference in selling a team who are in the World Cup as opposed to one who are not is huge in financial terms. The sponsorship and the ticket sales are things that directly affect them. And they lose out because of this. More so because of the stadium build.

- do you go into town very often, every weekend pubs and clubs are absolutely wedged, people are out spending money already.

I don't go in very often. But I was in last weekend. And I did notice that the pub I was in, was packed with a lot of people who were out for the rugby. As opposed to about 8 weeks ago when I was in the same place and there was less people there. Even though Ireland were playing Italy.

But where it was really apparent was when I was home, outside Dublin and out when the first France match was on. There was a lot more people were out than usual. I was talking to a guy who was out with his wife. They went for dinner beforehand and then out for drinks after.

This is where it takes effect because he was spending money both in a restuarant and a pub. And if you look at the figures quoted, £100m is hardly going to pull any country out of recession. I would have thought anyone in a bank would know that.

What it does do is generate a bit more business for everyone and could be the difference between businesses surviving a little bit longer or folding which is the sad case now with a lot of them.

Going and spending money in pubs isnt doing anything for the recession.

[Nerik]

So let us have a 168 team World Cup in order to end the world recession.

i thought you were hanging the boots up soon.
you and tony drago back in action?

I will put the retirement off if I had the chance to play in the World Cup and nutmeg Dunne before throwing the ball past Given.

[shass]

haha, you'd run straight off the pitch and to the nearest computer to log in here to wind up Nos and RobSeR!!

[Nosferatu]

Going to the pub and spending money is doing something for the recession. Any pub still open is open because of people spending money in it. And an open pub is employing someone whether it is the owner or whether there is more staff there. And there are plenty of other knock on effects like people buying new televisions to enjoy it more. Or even groups of lads putting together some small parties to watch it where they buy a couple of cans from the off license and a lock of food from the supermarket. It doesn't necessarily have to be huge spending just a little bit of an increase.

Falkman is right about the knock on effects.

But really the best thing you can hope from this is that FIFA would be forced into doing something. I don't really blame the FAI for asking for all this. It's costing them a lot of cash so for the sake of asking, I personally see it better for them to say they did what they could and just didn't lie down and take it. But for everyone else, I think FIFA have confirmed today that they will put twp extra officials on the sidelines to help the ref. It's a half ass approach to actually fixing the issue but it might just help a little bit. Each official will be at the goals apparently.

[Nerik]

FIFA doing something for the future or FIFA doing something to rectify what happened to Ireland?

[noel 78]

This is not the recession thread

[Nosferatu]

They were never going to do anything for Ireland. We're not big enough. It was clear when they brought the seedings into the draw where their priorities lay. We also know they will walk over particular footballing countries if it gives them a chance of breaking into the huge non-footballing markets like the US.

But the trouble that the Ireland game has caused hopefully will push the game towards being more fair play and fair results rather than bad decisions and subsequent endorsement of cheating.

[Robser]

They were never going to allow 33 teams in no matter who it happened to for God sake, its embarrassing.

If you think the recession will be fixed by jobs for barmen and lounge boys so be it, I wont argue any further!

[noel 78]

the FAI were idiots for asking in the 1st place ,it was desperate and embarassing.the fact that sepp blatter came out and made the request public when he told the FAI it would remain internal.says everything about the lack of integrity at FIFA,how can they expect players to behave with honesty and intgrity when this sort of example is set from the men in charge?